we're going to find out who's right and wrong on election day. it is a turnout question at this point. >> vin, do you have an opinion? >> you know, i want romney to win, i'm for romney, so i guess i believe my own campaign's theory of this. it's born out what i'm hearing back in minnesota which i know pretty well but what i'm hearing in governor representndell's st pennsylvania didn't think it was going to be in play, it's going to be in play. democrats are putting money in there. governor romney is going to be in the philadelphia suburbs on sunday. >> what about that fact, ed rendell, the fact of governor romney going in there and that bob casey, your senator, is in a very much tougher than anticipated race, and that his opponent comes from coal country and coal has been a real cutting edge issue for mitt romney? >> basically i agree with what vin said about this election and it's going to be a turnout battle but i think we have a little peek into the enthusiasm of both sides in the early voting. i mean, the democrats are just slaughtering repub